Who likes Likes (and Reblogs)?
We love likes. So we've now added like/love/thumbs-up/upvote functionality across every post (and on the /everyone page).
Both logged-in users and visitors can like posts -- in the future, we'll add the ability to see which users liked each post.
Update: We've also added a /random -- its like /everyone except random.
Update #2: Reblogs / Repost! Yes, its already here! Just click the loopy icon below any post to reblog / repost it to your own site! We'll release an update to this in the near future that will allow you to see who and how many people reblogged your posts too.
I think so. Maybe we could rename the reblog as a repost?;>
Such sentiments, You know.;)
@corvax We understand the sentiment :) Its now repost.
If anyone else is upset by the change, let me know. We are a democracy after all.
I have the feeling that it is not a good idea to insert all reposts at the end of the post. Sooner or later the list of reposts will be longer than the post itself. Wouldn't it be better to just display the last repost? And maybe the blog of the original post?
@ph03nix I agree, this was just to get the feature out quickly, we'll update it to only show the last and original in 1 line. Note that you can edit the "reposted from" text yourself after you hit the Publish button on the post.
I don't know if I understood correctly, but, colleague, maybe the point is - http://www.clipular.com/c/4824811950571520.png?k=yug18lEfsGMTrjStPaSFEo-6fIo
Not a fan of likes. I feel it devalues the meaning of a reblog. Likes feel like a lack of commitment (and oddly enough it's like heroin for soccer moms).
Can you recreate the "Post to Soup" bookmark script that soup.io had? It didn't work for most of soups existence but for the short time it did, it was the greatest thing ever.
The greatest way of finding interesting soups was to follow the repost history, could you add an option to show the full tree?
And while I'm at it, could you please do something to clear up the navigation? It feels super confusing to me (although I may be too soup biased).
@artifexexmachina A bookmarklet is definitely on the todo list.
Which part would you like improved? Is it going back to the main site from the blogs? Or are you looking for something similar to the global nav bar at the top like Soup had?
The global navbar would be great. It's easier to jump between feeds and your own blog with it.
So for example if I repost something, I'd like to quickly check how it looks on my own blog.
I'm not a fan of likes either, as @artifexexmachina put it. The alternative could be different sub-blogs, or as on Soup - groups.
Btw, great job so far. There is still a long way to go, but I see it's going in the right direction.
Thank you :)
Either nav bar or change the circled L to a button that reveals/hides a navigation box. Ideally there's a way to access the own blog, /friends, groups, /news, /everyone /random, new entry and settings easily from pretty much everywhere.
Thanks for the feedback @jottos, @artifex. I'll do one of those options in the coming days.
Btw, is there a place for those kind of feature suggestions, Something a YouTrack, Bugzilla or Issues on Gitlab?
On a related note: What is the business model behind loforo?
@artifex We don't have a public bug/feature tracker at the moment. In the meantime please shoot me an email (or a comment) whenever you think of something. We read and respond to all emails.
We haven't thought through that fully yet but after we've built most of the features that people are currently asking for, we'll likely provide an optional upgrade that offers a couple of perks, similar to Soup. I don't plan on having ads on here though.
Bugwise there are only minor things, The nav bar is not showing up on my own page (I did not pay too much attention, was that thing on /everyone etc. always there or is that the new nav bar), the comments number does not update until the site reloads. Before I posted my first entry the create-your-first-post-link did not work and instead redirected to the main page. However, being able to propose, discuss and vote for features would be a novum for this kind of page, I would very much like this.
Regarding business Model: Soup was quite expensive for the owners, an article on golem.de (German Tech magazin) quoted about 10000 € costs vs. 1500€ revenue. The site was doomed in that regard, it was already broken by the time they offered paid features and introduced advertisement, so not many people went for that and adds are usually just blocked immediately. No tech savvy person voluntarily deactivates their addblockers, that just doesn't happen.
One option could be to open source loforo under a free-for-non-commercial-use license and do a Wikipedia kind of deal for the official site, as so many soup.io users had asked for in the ending days of soup.io. This way you are pretty much free to offer any kind of professional versions (aka. virtual Office features, currently perfect timing for this) and paid-support-services. A lot of smaller tech companies fare very well with this business model.
This turned into quite a lot, please bear with me. I did not want to write an email as I believe others may have comments, too.
Btw. is Thumbsnap related to this site or are we just leeching on their servers? If so you may want to know, that those site usually delete pictures after a some time. This may upset some users. :P
@artifex I just pushed a change that shows the nav bar on personal blogs if you're logged in.
* Comment number not updating and first post issue, added to to-fix
Guys, it really seems as if Loforo could be the next soup. One humble request: I would love to have the Repost-button just repost the stuff without any further action needed and without leaving the page you're on. Just as it was in Soup. This way, you could browse /friends or /everyone and repost things while scrolling. I thick that was one of Soup's killer-features (the other one being custom CSS).
Should read "I think" ðŸ˜
re: business model. Yep I had read the cost that was published and its quite high. We run another high traffic site (ThumbSnap) that serves terabytes of data every month at much lower cost and have experience writing efficient code. We will likely offer an optional upgrade in the future after we've built out most of the
features people have been requesting. It'll be many months before we get there though.
re: Thumbsnap -- mentioned above, we own the site, have run it for over 12 years now and we've never deleted any images there (unless it was illegal content).
@maximized 1 click reposting is definitely coming along with showing who reblogged and cleaning up the repeated "Reposted from ..." messages.
@maximized Custom CSS is definitely coming and is a high priority item
Ah, ThumpSnap is yours that's a nice place for loforo to start from. Soup was essentially born in a back alley. Despite all that was great about soup it still showed sometimes. Btw. may I ask where Loforo is based? Europe, US, Asia? And with that, which interpretation of family friendly do you impose?
Another thing I just noticed, clicking on Comments a second time just reloads them. I feel it should hide them again. On that note, notifications would be nice, too.
Oh, and if you change something about that, maybe make the three buttons floating on the top of the screen or on the side if they would leave the visible screen. Low importance gimmick but not having to scroll back probably would add to the user experience.
@artifex We're based in the US. We don't require "family friendly" and accept NSFW content as with ThumbSnap. The only thing we don't allow is content that would be considered illegal here. For NSFW posts/sites there will be a user controlled toggle as well as one for visitors to toggle NSFW content on.
Ok I may have phrased that badly my question was more about where exactly is that line for NSFW? If I would upload my soup backup there would be a fair share of nudity, painted in oil, digital arts, carved in marble but also photography but everything remains in a context that would generally be considered art. Do I need to flag all that or does NSFW only applies after content would be considered pornography?
I am sorry if this gets annoying, but I tend to have a problem with the while NSFW concept it implies that there is SFW content but in most cases doing anything not work related on work time would probably get you fired. So in my eyes making that distinction is kind of pointless. On soup it was argues that this is to make stuff save in a family context but I feel that argument was weak in it's own ways.
@artifex Yep it is a tricky thing to define since it varies person-to-person. I personally have a high tolerance for what's considered "NSFW" but as a public website open to people of all ages, we do have to limit what is shown by default.
My plan currently is to not define it at all but rather use a combination of AI-based NSFW tagging (we have a machine-learning-powered program that tries to figure out if an image is nsfw or not that we use at Thumbsnap that's semi-reliable) and allowing people to tag posts themselves and also, allowing people to report a post as "adult content" (a threshold of reports would trigger an automatic nsfw tag on that post).
I know the above is a bit of a non-answer but there isn't a hard rule that will work for everyone. Ultimately NSFW content is allowed on Loforo, it just may not show up in the /everyone feed if the visitor has NSFW mode turned off).
Actually It's a great answer. Machine learning based automatic tagging of potential critical posts is a beautiful solution. As long as blogs are not automatically marked as soon as a single post would fit the NSFW criteria I am happy but if you still need to do that please use a threshold like 25% offensive posts or so (in that case it would of course be great to see that number somewhere).
@artifex AI-tagging and user reports will only apply per-post (not per-blog).